AWARE OF INTERNET SCAMS
YOU ADVERTSE ON THE NARCOA "FOR SALE AND WANT" PAGE
IT IS MORE LIKELY THAN NOT THAT SOMEONE WILL ATTEMPT TO "SCAM"
This is not unique
to NARCOA, but is an industry wide problem. Should you encounter
a scammer, please do the following:
Report scams to
the FBI Internet
Fraud Complaint Center
The FBI generally
will not take a case if it involves less than $100,000. The
U.S. Postal Service has the same threshold.
will furnish name, address and telephone number... whereas
scammers do not. Look for poorly constructed sentences, anything from Nigeria or Romania, people buying via a broker and improper capitalizations. Scammers, like the examples on this page,
usually say the same thing... that they will send you a check
for more than what you are selling for. Normally, they send
you a counterfeit cashier's check. Here's how it works:
1. The scammer
wants you to send the balance (between the amount on the check
and the cost of the item) to them right away.
2. Not all banks
are wise to the counterfeit check, especially if it's a counterfeit
cashier's check, and sometimes it takes two weeks for it to
come back. By that time, you have already sent the balance
AND the merchandise.
Any mention of
a client or debtor owing money, overpayment, Western Union,
international shipper is a red flag... these are scams and
should be treated as such. That's how to recognize scammers.
Read about other
types of scams: "4-1-9"
or "Advance Fee Fraud" Schemes.
Following are examples
of scams that have been reported by advertisers on NARCOA.
are three correspondence I had from the person known as Kelvin
Willams. You can read what he sent me.
from: kelvin williams
message: hello seller, Am kelvin williams, Iam interested
in buying your NY - IC S-2 , if you are selling, kindly get
back to me with your last offering price and it's recent pictures.let
me know if u will accept certified cashier's check? i will
be responsible for the shipping cos i have a reliable shipper
who takes care of shipping for me i mean he will have to come
over to your location to pick it up and ship to me. Regards.
kelvin looking forward to hear from you soon
Thanks for your mail,i am okay with the price and the pics
you sent.this is how i will want us to seal the transaction
cos i dont want any delay at all.So all i am going to do is
to contact my associate in the state to issue you a certified
cashiers check of $7,OOO which will be for both the shipping
and your own money So all i will want you to do when you recieve
the check,is to deduct your own money and send the remaining
shipping funds ($3500) VIA WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER to
my inetrnational shipping agent , once he recieves the balance
he will come over to your location the very next day for pick
up, now the money wired to the shipper is his fees for his
services,transportation to your location and back to me, also
for all charges that may arise along this transaction cos
i will want it to be delivered to me safe and sound without
problems, i shall send you my shipper's address as soon as
i contact him So if this terms are okay by you i will your
contact address and phone number so that i can forward it
to my associate who will be issueing you the check.I look
forward to your reply. Thanks and Regards, KELVIN WILLIAMS
N/B the shipping funds will be wired to my international shipping
agent that will come for the pickup of the NY - ICS will be
the one to arrange the shipping from where you are located
to Sweden where i am living.Now that we have an agreement
I will like you to remove the advert you placed on the website
so that you will recieve no more offers. I will give you a
call as soon as you reply.info required to send the cheque:
FULL ADDRESS......... CITY............ STATE......... COUNTRY.....
ZIPCODE........ Phone number Office / cell
i must let you know that a money order is okay by me but you
see concerning my shipper's payment i must let you know that
the outstanding funds which is to be sent to my shipper is
his fees for his services i mean his transportation from your
location down here in stockholm and it should be sent via
western union money transfer which he sais is more preferable
to him so get back to me with your infos which is neeeded
to make out the payment to you.hope to read from you soon
is the other ad. As you can see its almost the same first
intro as the last ad. Seems really odd to me. At the end I
sent him a response which you will see in blue text, I never
heard from him again. It also maybe a way of stealing identity.
Either way its very odd. Law enforcement was not contacted
I used that to see how sincere he was and he never responded
from: Dean message:
Good day to you, Am Dean Lonardo, Interested in buying of
your Item, if you are selling, kindly get back to me with
the information regarding his condition the final price and
picture,Shipping i will be responsible for the shipping myself,Payment
do you accept certified cashier check, I will belooking forward
to hear from you. Remain Bless! Dean.
read the ad you saw the pics No cashiers check accepted US
buyers only. Law enforcement has been notified
just sold the gang car listed in Narcoa for sale list. I want
to thank you for displaying my ad and want you know I enjoyed
talking to members of Narcoa. If you would let the members
know I had 3 e-mails of potential customers that were nothing
but scamers trying to rip me off. They posed as buyers sending
me a certified check claiming there secretary sent a check
making a mistake of over payment. Then wanting to do a wiring
transfer of $5000.00 back to them just the minute I received
there check. This threw up a red flag for me to beware. It
is ashame we have low lifes monitoring our club to prey on
members that are honest and enjoy there hobby.
CHECK SCAM • INDUSTRY ALERT • The Nigerian Counterfeit
Check scam artists are hitting this site in full force. Here
is another example of emails that they send to sellers: "We
are interested in buying your above mentioned products at
the above rate. Vehicle to be shipped to London. Cost and
modalities of shipping to be born by us. Payment for the purchase
is by check through a debtor in US. The debtor owes us higher
than our purchase. He will therefore be sending you a check
for $11,500 to cover the cost of our order, as well as the
Shipping costs. On receipt of the check, you will cash and
deduct the cost of our order .The balance you will send as
we would instruct you to the Agency that will ship the Goods
to us. If this arrangement suites you fine, please send us
your address where to send the check, as well as the name
to be on it. Also send us your phone number for easy communication.
Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Best regards,
Mr. John Daniels."
OF NIGERIAN COUNTERFEIT CHECK SCAM • INDUSTRY ALERT •
Email received: "Am interested in buying your (Your Product)
which price is $2650 firstly i will like to know the present
condition of it because am a distributor of it in west africa
so one of my client is owing me the amount of $7,000 and he
is sending you a certified cashier's check of that amount
drawn in america bank so dont worry about the shipment ,i
have a shipping agent that will come for the pickup.so what
you will do is just deduct your fund and send the excess amount
through money gramm to my shipping agent that will come for
the pickup at your destination.I will want a trust wothy fellow
to transact business with me,so if this is acceptable with
you i will want you to forward me your FULL NAME,ADDRESS AND
PHONE NUMBER that you will use in receiving the check as soon
as possible. EXPECTING YOUR MAIL SOONEST. camelian." And here's
a note from Ben Johnson: "I had one of these nigeran fellows
contact me. I was sent a cashiers check drawn on an american
bank I took the check to my bank and had it verified the numbers
were good. Deposited the check and got it back in a few days.
It was a forged check with a good account number. It fooled
my bank. Thought I would pass info along to you."